Counter Side Terms and Mechanics
This guide will help you understand the common terms and mechanics in Counter Side.
This guide is made for two reasons: first, to explain the common terms used in the community, and second, to explain vague and/or intricate ingame mechanics.
Disclaimer: this guide contains mechanics not confirmed by the developers, but proven experimentally by players
MDL - Max Damage Limit. Any incoming damage exceeding this percent of the unit’s max hp is reduced by 80%. Ingame it is listed as “Damage Taken Limit”.
Iframe - Invincibility frames. Some units cannot be damaged during certain animations, most often ultimate skills.
EE - Exclusive Equipment, or the unique gear that only one unit can equip. For example, Kim Sobin's EE is the Fairy’s Infinite Ammo accessory.
CDR - Cooldown reduction, same thing as Skill Haste.
RTA - Ranked Gauntlet, or PVP.
DC - Danger Close, a bi-weekly PVE game mode where you fight a boss against other players to compete for the leaderboards.
SP/SH - Shadow Palace, and endgame PVE game mode for resources primarily to create Spectral gear.
Hit and Eva interactions
- If your unit's Hit is greater than or equal to 1.875x an enemy's Eva value, the enemy will not be able to evade any incoming attacks. This is often referred to as the 1.875x rule,
- If your Hit is less than 1.875x an enemy's Eva, the enemy has a chance to evade based on their Eva value, which you can see by clicking on the Eva stat in a unit's stats screen. This value is determined as Eva% = EVA / EVA+800,
- The damage dealt on a miss due to successful enemy evasion is determined by the hit stat, being equal to 10%+90% (Hit%). Hit% can be found on the stats screen, and is calculated as Hit% = Hit / Hit+1500,
- When an attack is evaded, any hitstun and critical hits will be nullified, unless the unit has sure crit, where the attack will still miss but be able to crit.
Perfect Evasion, Sure Fire, and Blind
- Perfect Evasion is a buff which certain units have that allows them to evade any incoming attacks, no matter their actual Eva vs the enemy's Hit. Even if the enemy's Hit is 1.875x their own Eva or more, they will still evade the attack. This makes Perfect Evasion a very good mechanic for survival, due to it greatly reducing incoming damage. Perfect Evasion also allows a unit to ignore hitstuns, but stuns will still work on them.
- Sure Fire on the other hand, is a buff that makes the unit always hit, regardless of the opponent’s evasion.
- When a unit with Perfect Evasion meets a unit with Sure Fire, both mechanics are ignored and the interactions between both units revert to the usual Hit/Eva interactions.
- Blind is a debuff that makes the opponent always miss, regardless of your unit’s Eva stat.
- When a unit has both Blind and Sure Fire, both are ignored and the interactions revert to the usual Hit/Eva interactions.
- When a unit has both Blind and Sure Fire and the opponent has Perfect Evasion, what the hell is even happening. All mechanics are ignored and the interactions between both units revert to the usual Hit/Eva interactions.
Skill Haste (CDR)
- The formula for cooldown after skill haste is applied is CDnew = CDbase / 1 + Skill Haste,
- Effects that give a flat cooldown reduction effect (e.g. Gaeun passive -2s on ult cd) are calculated using the base cooldown.
- Crit rate is calculated as Crit stat x 0.5%. It also caps at 85%.
- Crit and Spectral Chain gear sets are multiplicative to the base crit. For example, a unit with 1000 (50%) crit using two sets of Spectral Chain gets 1000(100%+20%) = 1200 (60%) crit.
- Barriers prevent damage from overflowing into HP: that is, if a unit takes a single hit of damage higher than the barrier value, the barrier will be removed but the HP will be untouched.
- Barriers are counted as buffs and are thus removed by buff removal, unless it is an uncancellable barrier
- MDL applies to barriers as it would to normal HP.
- Except for uncancellable barriers, applying a barrier to a sleeping unit will wake them up.
Incoming healing debuff above 100%
- If the incoming healing debuff is stacked above 100%, incoming healing turns into damage; -130% incoming healing, for example, turns a 20% hp heal into 20% (100%-130%) = -6% damage.
Role Advantage and Disadvantage, and Anti-Type Dmg Res
- Role Advantage Damage is base +30%, and disadvantage is at -30%.
- Similarly, Role Advantage Res is +30%, and disadvantage is -30%.
- Role Advantage/Disadvantage Damage/Res buffs are multiplicative to the 30% base, meaning a 50% role adv res buff is only +15% res.
- Dmg res is additive to your own anti-x dmg res, and subtractive from the opponent’s anti-x dmg. A ground ranger with -8% dmg taken and 20% anti-ranger res vs a ranger with 10% anti-ground damage will take 8% + 20% - 10% = 18% extra damage from the opponent.
- Role Adv values are additive to other anti-type dmg and res stats, such as anti-ground dmg res. A ranger with 20% anti-defender damage attacking a defender with 44.8% anti-ground dmg res will do 20% + 30% - 44.8% = 5.2% more damage.
Melee and ranged distance
- Melee distance is 500 game units or 5m. This is inferred from a patch note here,
- Whether the damage is regarded as melee or ranged damage is determined from the center of the character models.
- Ingame, melee range is about equal to the range of Irie Alford’s aura.
- Since melee/ranged damage is determined purely via distance, units are not strictly locked into one form of damage. A Ranger that usually deals ranged damage can also deal melee damage if an enemy unit gets too close to them.
Defense and Damage res interactions
- The formula for total damage reduction is DR = 1 - (1 - Def%)(1 - ΣRes + RoleAdv), and cannot exceed 80%
- Def% is from your DEF stat through the formula Def% =Def / Def + 1000, which cannot exceed 80%. This means Def has a hardcap at 4000.
- ΣRes is the summation of all your unit’s res and the opponent’s anti damage vs your unit.
- Damage reduction from MDL is independent of all other sources, and is always set at 80%.
- Also known as damage tolerance, increases Dmg Res to the attacker by the amount given (2% for all currently known cases) every time the unit is hit, to a max of 80%.
- Tolerance is counted separately for each attacker - an Ifrit and a Xiao Lin attacking the same Esterosa will have different counts on Esterosa for her damage tolerance.
- Tolerance is reset upon redeploying the unit.
- Tolerance is additive to anti-type damage res for damage calculations.
- For every Defender an AOE attack hits, the subsequent units to be hit will gain 7% damage res to the attack.
- Protect dmg res is additive to anti-type damage res for damage calculations.
Crit DMG Res
- Crit DMG Res, or simply CDMG Res, subtracts the amount of CDMG Res from the opponent’s CDMG stat. This means 35% CDMG Res vs an opponent with 50% CDMG will make their effective CDMG only 50% - 35% = 15%.
- Going above the opponent’s CDMG with CDMG Res will simply set their CDMG to 0%. Crits will still display on screen, but not do extra damage.
- CDMG Res is independent of the DEF and Dmg Res limit.
- Most PVE enemies only have 50% CDMG; This is related to proper tank set tuning for endgame PVE, where at least 50% CDMG Res is used to completely negate CDMG from PVE enemies.
- AOE Res reduces damage from attacks that are capable of hitting more than 1 enemy. This is taken from one of the KR patchnotes.
- The damage reduction from AOE Res is independent of the DEF and Dmg Res cap, i.e. you can already have the maximum 80% res thanks to gear, and still be able to benefit from AOE Res.
Hitstun, stun, hitstun immunity interactions
- Knockback, levitate, and pull are all regarded as hitstuns and can be prevented through “super armor” or evasion
- Every hitstun has their own power tier - determining which super armor they can bypass.
- Most passive, special skills will have “special” tier hitstun, and ultimates will have “ultimate'' tier hitstun - with few exceptions being Rosaria’s special having ultimate hitstun at level 5. (Despite what this sounds like, Shiyoon can still counter Rosaria's special even though it is stated ingame that he can only counter special skill tier or lower hitstuns).
- “Immunity to special hitstun or lower” will mean that you are immune to special skills’ hitstuns but not ultimates.
- There is a hitstun tier above ultimate, but it is very rare and the only currently known sources are Matador ship second skill’s pull and Nervier DC boss knockback. The only playable units with immunity to this tier of hitstun are Evolved One (Permanent), Awakened Hilde (Special), Horizon (During passive), and Dracasia (During ultimate).
- Stuns will always ignore evasion (including Perfect Evasion) or hitstun immunity, but can be prevented with “Stun immunity”.
- Most of the stuns will NOT stun mechas unless explicitly stated (e.g. Kestrel skill).
- CC Res reduces the duration of incoming debuffs. The formula for debuff duration after CC Res is applied is tnew = tbase / 1 + CC Res.
- Execute does bonus damage equal to twice the target’s remaining HP, ignoring crits, defense, dmg res, and evasion dmg reduction, but not MDL.
- This means that execute may not always instantly kill units with MDL.
- Stealth makes units untargetable. They may still be hit by collateral from AOE attacks, however.
Buff/Debuff Removal and Blocking
- Buff blocking prevents any non-permanent or uncancellable buffs from applying. Buff removal also cannot remove the said buffs. The same goes for debuff blocking.
- Not all buffs with infinite durations are considered permanent: for example, Eddie Fisher’s aura can be removed or blocked and will NOT return until redeployed.
- There is no pattern to which infinite buffs are permanent or not.